Opera 8.0 or OperaSomething 1.0? Or why 7.60 never was.



There never was a 7.60.

Or rather, there was a planned 7.60, but it never happened. The press release for the Opera 8.0 beta explains why:

"We were preparing for the 7.60 release, but as work progressed and we kept adding improvements and functionality, it became very evident that we now have a browser that is so powerful, secure, and easy to use that it exceeds the next logical version number and warrants a major release"

We did release previews that had the version number 7.60, but previews are just that – previews, test versions, pre-alpha or alpha software which does not represent the next final version. Those who have followed us through a few preview versions will understand what I am talking about, as previews have been known to be very experimental in nature, introducing new ways of doing things specifically to get feedback on those things. That these experiments are available in previews does not mean that the next final version will look like that.

Opera 7.60 was originally supposed to be Opera 7.5 plus voice, and maybe some other small improvements. As time progressed, we found ourselves having to deal with other issues, such as Gmail compatibility, and soon the plans changed. Previews were released, and the version number was still set to 7.60, but towards the end of the preview cycle, what was left was not just 7.5 plus voice…

  • We had a completely new version of the core in place, with improved support for various standards, as well as XMLHttpRequest support, needed for Gmail.
  • We added a new rendering architecture, called ERA (Extensible Rendering Architecture), which lets you use Opera on any screen size, and Opera will reformat the page to fit.
  • Printing received a facelift too, and fit to paper size was added.
  • Opera 8.0 automatically checks for new versions every week.
  • Error dialogs were replaced by error pages.
  • Help files were moved online.
  • We dropped the Java bundle, and instead offer to download the Java environment when you visit a page using Java.
  • The user interface, including toolbars and menus, was streamlined and made more friendly to new users, and mail, chat and newsfeeds no longer have to be disabled. They are only enabled when needed.

If you read the changelog, you will understand why this is a new major version, and not just a minor upgrade. There are major changes to large parts of Opera, both visible and invisible ones. The e-mail client has not been prioritized this time around, as it got a major upgrade in 7.5, but there will be another major upgrade to the e-mail client in the (hopefully) near future.

To sum up, Opera 8, or whatever the final name will be, is not an upgrade to Opera 7.60, because 7.60 was never officially released. It is an upgrade to Opera 7.54, and the changelog since 7.54 should speak for itself.

And yes, people who bought Opera 7 will get the upgrade to the next version for free.

Opera 8 is a free upgrade.

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36 thoughts on “Opera 8.0 or OperaSomething 1.0? Or why 7.60 never was.

  1. Just make it Opera 8.0, I'm sure you will get enough publicity anyway. I think Opera is Firefox-ish enough already, no need to take their adorable version number as well.

  2. Currently running the first preview of Opera 8.. looks good, but the only thing that n00bs would notice that is substantially different to version 7 is the X's on the tabs. Really, the GUI has not changed that much at all, and I know that the devs have done tons of work on the Opera core, added things like voice and Gmail support, but generally, I still think that this should be Opera v7.60.. or if that is not significant enough, 7.80.. :-p

    Just my two cents..

  3. But what happened to keeping the various platforms on the same version? How soon before we can try a beta of Opera8 for Linux?

  4. Just how easy is it to import the mail from 7.6 to 8?
    because apparently the 8.0 installer creates a new profile dir called opera8…
    Is it just copying and pasting the mail folder from opera75?

  5. You can just copy the entire mail directory over.

    Or, when 8.0 final is release, just install it over the previous version, and it will pick up all settings automatically.

  6. Actually, there's a couple of settings that need to (should?) be updated as well.

    Most of the .ini files under the Opera folder (both Mail and Profile folders) refer to the install path for Opera, and also a few things like your signature file. To do a complete move/copy of the folder, you should search out any ini files and do a simple find-replace for Opera75 (or Opera76 if that's what you had before) and replace them with Opera8.

    Doing a direct copy _will_ work, but will have references to your old Opera75 directories (which is bad should you uninstall it 😉 )

    On a side note, this isn't really a very hard action… the one exception being the plugin path in Opera6.ini that automagically refers to all plugin dirs (Mine even referenced Opera7). Has anyone written or thought of writting a script/program that does handles this more automatedly? (Would be really nice to have an "import from old version" feature in Op8.1 ^.^ )

  7. There's no need to edit the mail paths manually. Opera corrects them automatically. It has done so since 7.10 or so.

    The profile folder does indeed contain paths that need to be edited, but I was talking about copying the mail folder, not the profile folder. And when you upgrade, you simply install over the previous version anyway.

  8. Opera has been called "internet suite", so I'd vote for "Opera Suite 1.0".

    If not, "Opera NG (next generation)", maybe? This would make a good headline…

    Too bad that new Opera comes with Voice. Really, this is cool thing, "but why do I need a voice browser? I want a regular browser.."

  9. do you know how often microsoft checks for updates? I'll tell you, that's way more often. Once a week is really nice. I can't see your problem.
    Personally, I'd like it if Opera checks everyday and shows previews and betas too.

  10. Reliability, auto upgrade and speed will sure win over IE users. MS is using auto upgrade to help fill their chasm.
    I am a fan of Opera, trying to promote Opera through my network. Incompatiability between site using IE only deter
    my effort. My bank coerced users to use IE or else — no support (ActiveX) frustrates me. Apparently they look for
    browser string. But can Opera 8 change this compatiability
    issue (inline). Goldmine still out there to win over new
    Opera fan because they are simply don't know Opera or they
    force to use IE for this compatiability issue alone. I hope Opera 8 will atest to its high standard of stability.
    Otherwise, it will be another joke for me to loose new Opera
    fans.

  11. How about Opera Platinum (or something similar?)

    I suggest 5-6 possible names should be chosen and a poll to take place!

  12. > But still opera remains incompaitble with a lot of sites using Java script.

    No. Most of the time, it's because the script specifically detects Opera and sends it broken code. Read the Open the Web forum for more information.

  13. I beleive that set of real numbers is infinite and there is no need to rename browser after each release. I don't think that Opera should copy branding policy of Firefox, formely known as Firebird,
    formerly known as Phoenix, formerly known as Mozilla, formerly known as Netscape 5, formerly known as Aurora, formerly known as …

  14. Btw, I like opera, it is not bad at all, but I just don't feel like paying for another peice of software, when I can get something similar for free, that is just how I work, and that is how a large majority of other users work too.

  15. Opera will never be as big unless they offer a feature-limited version for scotspanking free. Forget the text ads and all that, make a simple downloadable browser with "Windows Native" screen as default. That should do it. I like Firefox but for a power user, it's just not there, and won't be without a hundred "extensions". However, for mumma and papa, I haven't even thought of Opera. And those kind of simple folk are a majority.

  16. Firefox and Opera are not that similar. They can both browse the Web, yes, but Opera is smaller, faster, and a better product overall, with lots of useful features to make your surfing, e-mailing, and so on, more convenient.

    To achieve the same with Firefox, you need to download countless extensions, and even then, it simply doesn't work the way Opera does.

    Perhaps you would claim that you won't need to buy Photoshop, since The Gimp is free. I would beg to differ, just as Opera and Firefox are not exactly similar products. They have completely different design philosophies.

  17. My mumma (50 year old) thinks Internet is Opera. =)

    When she started getting into the internet world I installed her Opera and The Bat for email.

  18. been using Opera 8 beta for sometime now. i liked it. but i realy miss the color scheme of previous versions

  19. My recommendation is to continue with the current naming and version convention and call it Opera 8.

    There is nothing wrong with the name, it isn't broken, so why fix it?

  20. I disagree. Opera is better 🙂

    Your logic is rather flawed. Being used by a lot of people doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best out there.

  21. Why is the java bundle being discontinued? It's more convenient and much less hassle to install the java bundle, especially after a fresh reformat.

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