Microsoft plays dirty against other browsers in Russia

Our Russian community manager Ilya noticed that members of our Russian forums made an interesting discovery on Microsoft's Russian site. If you open the page with a different browser than IE, you will get a popup ad for Internet Explorer. That's not necessarily wrong in itself, of course. The problem is that they are combining it with false claims about security. …

They seem to be saying that IE is 80% safer than Opera, or that it protects its users against spyware 80% better. This is based on an old and debunked report by NSS Labs.

If you visit the site with Chrome, the claim is perhaps even more exaggerated. It seems to claim that IE8 is better than any other browser at protecting its users from spyware and stolen passwords. Again they rely to NSS Labs and the debunked report they published.

The question is: Why is Microsoft publishing false claims from a report which is based on pseudoscience and manipulated statistics?

If you understand Russian, Ilya has more in Opera's Russian language blog.

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19 thoughts on “Microsoft plays dirty against other browsers in Russia

  1. It's called marketing, just like Apple did with Safari, etc. Also, they don't say which Opera version, so yeah, it can be faster than Opera 3.0 or whatever.

  2. Originally posted by DjiXas:

    It's called marketing, just like Apple did with Safari, etc.

    It's called lying. Yes, Apple lies too. So that means it's OK for Microsoft to lie?

    Also, they don't say which Opera version, so yeah, it can be faster than Opera 3.0 or whatever.

    Did you even read the blog post? It refers to the dishonest hit piece by NSS Labs. There's even a link to the article that debunks it!Why do you always attack Opera, DjiXas?

  3. The question is: Why is Microsoft publishing false claims from a report which is based on pseudoscience and manipulated statistics? The answer is: FEAR!! Hopfully nobody believes that BS from Microsoft :confused:

  4. Originally posted by Purdi:

    It's called lying. Yes, Apple lies too. So that means it's OK for Microsoft to lie?

    No, not a fan of dirty tactics either. However, maybe then it's about time to take more serious action than just post on a blog?"Misleading or False Advertising"

  5. Originally posted by DjiXas:

    maybe then it's about time to take more serious action than just post on a blog?

    Somehow I doubt that just any random Opera employee has the power to take any kind of action.Also, a blog post is a good thing because it lets people know what's going on. That way Microsoft can't get away with it in silence.

  6. Strange. Are they not afraid of the Fox? Very enlightening. Thanks for the time machines to last year. Fascinating how that report has held up until now. (not)Besides, if all they are relying on is the rare voluntary trojan, that old report was moot. (since being infected merely by loading the page is the biggest failure of IE and 'Fox)

  7. I would say Microsoft has fallen behind on the net (IE 8 is a start and IE 9 might get somewhere) They still have not told web developers to write in standard code and so you still get sites that that say ( you know). Microsoft needs to clean up their act and help the web forward and not push it back

  8. Originally posted by myeagle:

    As an average user/reader what I can understand is that Opera is missing something about data protection

    Then that average user is wrong. Did you even read the comments?

    it would definitely be good if they can provide an option to set a master password and access the stored passwords, rather than having a algorithm which can be cracked easily

    Are you trolling?If not, why are you repeating this drivel when you have already been informed that Opera already has a master password feature?

  9. As an average user/reader what I can understand is that Opera is missing something about data protection, Techie Buzz VerdictIf an external software can crack thealgorithms of these browsers and fetchthe passwords, it would definitely be
    good if they can provide an option to
    set a master password and access the
    stored passwords, rather than having a
    algorithm which can be cracked easily.
    That said, OperaPassView is a reallyhandy software to have, but again itexposes the vulnerabilities of abrowser. What if your laptop is lost?Anyone could use software like theseand get access to your passwords.Are you listening Google Chrome andOpera?That's what I thought you advanced tech users see at first glance in the article, for I seen a similitude with MS advice , "don't use this browser cause there are better safe alternatives" But I must be wrong, sorry to wasting your time,@Purdi When I said a place to report the article I mean if here in the Community exist a Forum or Blog to discuss what is reviewed in the web about Opera.

  10. Originally posted by Purdi:

    Originally posted by DjiXas:

    It's called marketing

    It's called lying.

    Exactly. Let's always make it clear that Lying and Marketing are two very different things even if completely unethical so called "Marketing Professionals" tend to get things confused way too often.

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